The One Where Jester Becomes THAT Asshole
 

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[UPDATED 7/25/08: Please see the new post describing the aftermath, apologies, and reconciliation before you launch a new attack on either me or Lisa.]

Seriously, you all just might want to unsub from this blog right now. Just walk away shaking your head and saying I can’t BELIEVE that guy…

Still here?

Ok then, you fucking asked for it.

My post about Annoyances yesterday was, for the most part, taken for exactly what it was… a tongue-in-cheek diatribe describing the bitter mood I’ve found myself in for the past few days. Most of you understood that not only was I poking fun at a lot of you, but I was also mostly poking fun at myself. MOST of you played along in comments and reminded me how much fun my blog can actually be.

But then there is that ONE person who seems to think she was unfairly called out. Or was being targeted in some smear campaign.

Lisa from Clusterfook seems to think that she is the only person I could have possibly been talking about who writes about needing money. Or who might have other people asking to donate money on her behalf.

At least that’s what I *think* she is upset about. I’m not sure, because she’s not real clear in her comments whether she’s upset about the money thing or the Anti-BlogHer thing.

Oh, but we CAN look in our handy little feed readers and find out what her real problem is… Shall we do that?

And before one any of you scream at me to take this to email, let me just say this: The post went out to everyone who gets her feed. I’d link to the post and leave a comment there responding to her, but the post was pulled making that impossible. I also know that the Cunt Coven and all their harpies will be streaming out of the woodwork to call for my public beheading whether I address the issue or not.

Here’s what the post said:

I’ve about had it with this guy having problems with the kindness of others helping my family and I’m done. This is the second time he’s had something to say about how it “annoys” him that other bloggers would help out a blogger who has cancer.

I’m sick of this two-faced ass acting like he cares then stabbing me in the back. He makes me sick. He stressed me out beyond belief in April and now he dares to do it again.

How fortunate for you that you are healthy. How fortunate that you have a job. I once had all of those things but you know what? Life changed. I got cancer…three fucking times in four years. I got laid off from my job…four days before I started chemo. I was denied Unemployment.

Think it’s a sob story? I don’t do sob stories…I do the truth. Be a man for once and have the balls to come to me first and tell me you have a problem instead of being a pussy by hiding on your blog.

I’m done with this crap. I’ve had it.

Let’s take a look at this a bit closer, shall we? First, here’s what I ACTUALLY said in my post yesterday that Lisa seems to have an issue with:

Things that are annoying Jester about the Blog-o-sphere lately: # Pro-BlogHer posts # Anti-BlogHer posts [...] # Posts that thinly veil a beg for money # Posts that overtly direct you to give money to those thinly veiling their begs for money [...]

Now back to Lisa’s post:

[...] having problems with the kindness of others helping my family and I’m done. This is the second time he’s had something to say about how it “annoys” him that other bloggers would help out a blogger who has cancer.

Would someone please point out to me where I’ve said anything at all about having a problem with the kindness of others? Where did I say anything about being annoyed by people helping out someone with cancer? I’ve run a find “cancer” on that post a dozen times and funny, nothing comes up. Lisa says that this is the SECOND time that I’ve said this. Certainly she is referring to my Call to Action post from back in April, where I dared say that I didn’t trust the person organizing the drive to raise money for Lisa’s trip to DisneyWorld. That post CERTAINLY doesn’t say anything negative about actually helping Lisa, in fact, it says just the opposite. It calls people to contact their employers and other companies that could help provide needed supplies for her and her family. Man, I’m such an asshole!

I’m sick of this two-faced ass acting like he cares then stabbing me in the back. He makes me sick. He stressed me out beyond belief in April and now he dares to do it again.

Where exactly did I stab Lisa in the back? At what point did I do something that was “two-faced?” I can be accused of many things, but being two-faced is not one of them. The emails and chats that I exchanged with Lisa back when the Call to Action clusterfuck was going on indicated to me that she wasn’t “stressed” or even upset with me. She certainly wasn’t “crying her eyes out” as the commentors claimed. She merely said that she “wished there wasn’t so much drama surrounding this, but I know not everyone gets along.”

How fortunate for you that you are healthy. How fortunate that you have a job. I once had all of those things but you know what? Life changed. I got cancer…three fucking times in four years. I got laid off from my job…four days before I started chemo. I was denied Unemployment.

Healthy? Me? I have CFS, a disease no one really believes exists or for which a set course of treatment exists. I’m overweight, pre-diabetic, my liver is doing some funky shit, my blood pressure is off the charts, and every single cold or flu bug that comes along knocks me on my ass for 2 weeks at a minimum. I finally have a steady job again after being mostly out of work for the better part of a year. My house is going into foreclosure and I don’t see any way out of it. But Lisa’s right, I’m not dying at the same rate of speed she is.

My point is that we all have some fucked up shit in our lives. It sucks that Lisa got cancer. Again. It sucks that the system is totally letting her down. It sucks that she has all this pent up anger inside that she feels she has to throw in my direction. It sucks that there isn’t a bloody thing that any one of us can do to stop this sickness.

Think it’s a sob story? I don’t do sob stories…I do the truth. Be a man for once and have the balls to come to me first and tell me you have a problem instead of being a pussy by hiding on your blog.

Now see, here we go… IF I had a problem with Lisa I would have certainly gone to her directly. I have absolutely NO problem going to the source. I was recently quite perturbed at Miss Britt over something I’m sure I was blowing out of proportion. She got an email from me that told her I was upset and why and everything blew over.

Calling me a pussy on her blog and then pulling the post so that I can’t respond? That’s just delicious irony there.

________________

This part of this post is directed to Lisa head on and posted here so there is no misquoting and faked emails going around about what I did or did not say because I know how certain people on the polluted side of the blog pond operate.

I really am sorry that you are taking something personally that you shouldn’t be. I know that your entire world must be completely consumed by your situation. I know that reading things through that particular lens must be a tough thing to do. But it’s really rather silly of you to go off all righteous when you have no idea what the hell you’re talking about. Yours is not the only blog I read. Yours is not the only tragic tale being told. You’re not even the only person I read who has cancer.

Your blog also doesn’t “thinly veil” your fund raising campaign. It’s pretty blatant.

There is an entire universe of things happening outside your doorstep, outside of your blog, and outside of your cancer that will continue to happen long after you or I or anyone reading this are dead and gone. That’s a pretty easy thing to intellectualize, but incredibly difficult to actually realize.

I have been in the position of watching people die around me more than most people. I have lost friends suddenly to suicide and slowly from AIDS. I’ve had family members linger with painful cancers and emphysema. I’ve spent countless hours in hospitals and nursing homes caring for patients who are barely conscious or lucid. I’ve also scooped up the results of devastating car accidents into tiny bags.

I’ve come away from the sum of these experiences with a fundamental truth about life:

You should count yourself lucky that you know your death is imminent. You have the opportunity to say all the things that you want to say to everyone in your life that is important to you. You have the opportunity to write letters to your children, make videos for them to watch on days when they miss their mother. You can put your affairs in order and make your wishes about your funeral and your remains known.

Anyone of us could step off a curb and get creamed by a bus ten minutes after stepping outside. What would we have left undone? Would I have called my parents to thank them for everything they have ever done for me? Would UMB know what he means to me, or what to do with all my things? Would I have the opportunity to leave something lasting for the world to remember me by? Would the people who have enriched my life via this blog know how much of a rock they have become to me?

Not if I stepped off that curb into the path of a bus tomorrow.

You? You have the answer to the question that every single religion in existence was created to solve.
You have the answer to the question that plagues every single human being on the planet: “When and How will I die? How much time do I have?”

The answer is not very fucking much. And you’re spending that time fretting about medical bills and collection agents and the perceived slights against you on a stranger’s blog? You are expending your energies writing missives about my being a two-faced ass, and blaming me for the actions of others who don’t believe you are even sick?

Get yourself set up with a bankruptcy attorney who can help bail your family out of the overwhelming debt the medical bills are creating. That’s why bankruptcy laws were created, to help those who suffer a devastating event. Your illness certainly qualifies.

Spend the remaining time you have left focusing on things that matter… your family, your friends, and your spiritual needs.

Everything else, me included? A barely visible blip on the radar. Nothing more than a little noise.

I wish you peace, laughter, and all the love you can squeeze into the months ahead.

-Paul
aka Jester

118 Responses to “The One Where Jester Becomes THAT Asshole”
 

At the risk of losing the three readers I have.

It’s a sad comment the state of the medical system in the U.S. that Lisa can’t get the medical help she needs without going into debt. We all face challenges, and I actually have a lot of respect for you for having the courage to say it. For what it’s worth, I hope if I end up in this situation that I can rise above it all and find solace in my family and friends.

(I’ve read Hilly for a long time, I subscribe to Lisa’s blog too. Now you’re stuck with me as well.)

Nats last blog post..A dock with a view

Nat wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 5:10 am

 
 

Did you think maybe she pulled that post because she regretted it and realized that she was reading too much into it? Now you’re the one making assumptions that she did it so that you couldn’t respond.

I think you’ve overreacted in a much bigger and more hurtful way than Lisa might have.

And, dude, I know you’re premenstrual, but take a deep breath!

Avitables last blog post..Look at my package

Avitable wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 5:15 am

 
 

I thought what she said was kind of over presumptuous and overly harsh, but I kind of agree with what Avitable said too.

Amandas last blog post..Collapse Into Me Tired With Joy

Amanda wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 5:28 am

 
 

I have to agree with Avitable’s comments here also.

Jens last blog post..Sesame Street

Jen wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 5:31 am

 
 

Everyone seems to be at a flashpoint, warranted or irrational (I’m going to keep my opinion to myself on where everyone falls in this, because I’m not in it - it isn’t my place, and likely I’d just become another target.) I’m sitting in between all three (You, Lisa, and Avitable) I see where both sides lay on this…. and overall, maybe it should just be silenced for now. It’s only going to cause pain, where maybe it isn’t warranted or intended. No one benefits from that, no rights are wronged, and everyone just ends up feeling badly.

Kyras last blog post..Candled

Kyra wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 5:42 am

 
 

I responded by email to Lisa. I guess I basically said the same thing as you only in my own way with my own experiences. I don’t have body bag stories, but so many of my co workers have battled the big C that you’d think that working at the cemetery makes you ill. Maybe Adam is right, maybe you and I both did the same thing Lisa did and just jumped to defend ourselves without thinking it through. Maybe my words hurt her. I dunno.

Truthfully, having watched my co worker Ruthie battle ovarian cancer twice in the first 5 years I worked at the cemetery, I would say that someone in that position isn’t always in a good frame of mind. You have to focus on yourself or you don’t survive. Ruthie took herself out of situations where she was dealing with others because regardless if their intentions were good or not, she had to be self centered at that point in her life, and she didn’t want to offend anyone… because she was doing the same thing Lisa is.

I know where your heart lies Jester. Yes, I knew the spirit in which you posted Annoyed. I feel the same sometimes. It’s not those blogs really, it’s internal, but poking fun at yourself by pretending to be pissy with everyone else can be amusing and relieve tension. I’m so sorry it didn’t go off without a hitch. I still love you… even if THIS post made me cry. MUAH!

Winters last blog post..I’m Full

Winter wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 6:33 am

 
 

I appreciate the sentiment behind “at least you know”, because I have tossed that exact question around in my head for months now.

But there’s no way in hell I’d ever presume to tell someone who has “limited time” with her children that “hey, at least you know”.

I couldn’t stomach that.

Maybe I don’t want to know.

Miss Britts last blog post..So… we’re going to talk about abortion

Miss Britt wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 7:07 am

 
 

Call me stupid, but I think Lisa has the right to overreact.

Call me naive because I believe that the woman is suffering more then ANY of us could possibly imagine.

I dunno, but if I were in a similar situation I think I would believe that posts complaining about the need for money, support, help and COMPASSION would be directed at me. All these things CONSUME her life at the moment and it’s really hard NOT to think otherwise.

Instead of fighting about who said what and how they said it, how about we focus on what’s really important.

A HUMAN LIFE.

A HUMAN BEING that is SUFFERING and in need of FRIENDS and SUPPORT.

Forget our own selfish needs of being heard and speculation at the moment.
Lisa needs us.
She needs all of us.
She DESERVES to rant, accuse and hate.

SHE is fighting for HER LIFE.

Maybe, God Forbid, when our time comes, people would allow us the same opportunity. I know I would need it.

We should be rallying TOGETHER and not fighting.

sam wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 7:13 am

 
 

I’m sorry you were misconstrued, but I have to say that when I read your post yesterday Lisa was the first person that came to mind. That could be because at the moment I don’t know anyone else who fits, but there it is. Once I thought about it I couldn’t imagine that you’d do that.

Maybe she did take the post down because she was just upset and venting and later realized that you weren’t talking about her.

Sam, I don’t think hate is ever appropriate, no matter how shitty your situation. Anger, sure, but not hate. Hate is toxic and that’s the last thing she needs now.

Finn wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 7:32 am

 
 

Finn, you’re absolutely right. I picked the wrong word.

sam wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 7:35 am

 
 

Jester, you just don’t get it. I should consider myself lucky that I know my death is imminent? As the mother of a child who is 8 years old and a mother of 11 years old how do you justify that statement? Do I say to Cam and Teenie, “Well sweeties we are lucky to know that I’m leaving now so suck it up…you are going to live the rest of your lives without a mom.”

What transpired on your blog back in April stressed me out and had me in tears, so let’s get that straight.

This is no different.

I took down a post that I wrote in anger five minutes after I wrote that which you knew before you wrote this. You made the decision to post it from your feed reader.

You caused me an enormous amount of stress in April and now you are doing it again.

I apologized for writing that post, you know I did yet you had to do this anyway.

Thanks for your understanding.

Lisa wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 7:46 am

 
 

[...] read this. Then ask yourself why I want to quit [...]

I Want To Quit at Clusterfook wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 7:57 am

 
 

As a mother with 3 young children who has brain cancer, this post really…. made my heart stop.

We should feel lucky to know our death is imminent? Wow.

Lisa, I too am insulted and awe struck over those words, as a mother with cancer, and I am not emotionally involved in this current drama. I just had to speak up about that statement, because you (Jester) didn’t just say that about Lisa, you said it to community of cancer survivors everywhere.

And that is NOT okay.

Especially Heathers last blog post..Sovereignty..

Especially Heather wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 8:04 am

 
 

I don’t know…this is sad, not directly at anybody in anyway, however upsetting that the fight for someones life has become this invested of a topic, in this sort of way.

Lisa is fighting for her life, and I’m sorry if I’m not understanding correctly, but she has every single right to bitch and moan, and cry and laugh and assume that posts like this have been directed towards here. I know I would, and I would be defensive too. Just like her. Wouldn’t you? (When I say you, I mean others out there, everyone, not just one person)

I just think this all needs to settle down… the woman needs to live, stress free as much as possible… not have to worry about things like this, God Forbid what she is going through is… Annoying? I don’t know, I just don’t agree with it all.

Just my two cents though… probably doesn’t matter much.

Nice blog otherwise though Jester… I’ll be back for more.

Krystle wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 8:08 am

 
 

“Posts consisting of nothing but pictures of hot guys” and “Lists of annoyances ” ~should~ have clued everyone in to the joke. especially everyone who’s read jester’s stuff in the past.

unfortunately it seems as if once again the post was not read in it’s entirety by all and things were misconstrued.
what i took to be a funny post poking fun at the blogging community in general and the author himself specifically was made out to be an underhanded sneak attack on certain bloggers.

there’s a new ad campaign aimed at teens asking them to take a moment and think before making decisions.

maybe we could all benefit from a pause as well.

heathers last blog post..when it rains

heather wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 8:17 am

 
 

Fart is a funny word. That’s all.

othurmes last blog post..Kick Down Some Buckets

othurme wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 8:25 am

 
 

Wait that’s not all…

1) The pulled post was not the only place this was mentioned. It went on long after the post was pulled on twitter last night. My guess is that THIS post wouldn’t exist if the pulled post was just regretted and not mentioned again.

2)Both of my parents lost there fathers in accidents as small children and were raised with no father. They never got to say goodbye, they have wished every day of their lives they would have gotten that chance. It may be hard to hear that there is an upside to a situation like this, however small that upside is, it should not be a bad thing to point it out.

3) I love that people in one breath can all at once a) attack someone for writing this post, and b) tell that person that attacks are not what we need in a time like this. Are you Houdini? How did you do that?

othurmes last blog post..Kick Down Some Buckets

othurme wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 8:41 am

 
 

Jester all I have to say is that I must join in with the cunt coven in calling for your beheading. Only because of the fact that both of your two faces are so damn cute, I want to stuff them and hang them in my living room! Hang in there buddy, not all of us want to crucify you…

Chriss last blog post..Step away from the cupcakes and no one gets hurt!

Chris wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 8:46 am

 
 

Jester, this is tiresome and I’m disappointed. Let’s move on, shall we?

Geeky Tai-Tais last blog post..Clearly I Won’t Be Invited…

Geeky Tai-Tai wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 9:13 am

 
 

Also, I’ve encouraged all the little kids around Jester’s neighborhood in Fairfield, CA to shut down their lemonade stand to seek their fortune at opening a “Throw A Rotten Tomato At Jester’s House Stand”. It’s a guaranteed success. They will all be rich.

othurmes last blog post..Kick Down Some Buckets

othurme wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 9:16 am

 
 

I’m another one of those people that can see this from various sides. I do think Lisa pulled that post because she wrote it out of anger and didn’t want to leave it out there. It wasn’t to call you an asshole and then leave no place for you to “defend” yourself.

I know that you have no ill will toward Lisa. We’ve talked about this in person.

Karls last blog post..As Close As I Am Going to Get to a BlogHer Recap

Karl wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 9:50 am

 
 

I guess I just don’t understand why this is even an issue. What do you care if every person in America is beggin for money for this one or that… if you don’t like it, don’t give. It’s no different than the televangelists or the million phone calls I get every day from people begging me for money.
What’s with the lack of empathy? Who pissed in your Cheerios?
I understand that your blog post was meant to be funny. But, some things just aren’t. However this may have started out, whether or not you were calling out Lisa, it doesn’t matter. It is what it is now. This woman is dying. DYING. About to leave two children motherless. Do you have a mother?
This should have all been let go, or resolved privately.

Can you imagine for just one small moment why using something like this to generate controversy and traffic to your blog makes you twice as guilty of the very same thing that you were accusing others of doing. You could have just ended this. You could have simpky told Lisa “hey it was a joke, it had nothing to do with you” and that could have been the end of it.
They are asking for money. You are asking for publicity or links. You’ve now become one of things that annoy you so much.

anonymous wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 9:53 am

 
 

Oy to the fucking vey.

Can we make this all about me? You choose TODAY to go all crazy and dramalicious? Really? On a day that I feature YOUR picture on my blog? Seriously dude. You’re ruining my rep.
;)
As for the rest of it, you know how I feel and because I’m big on doing things behind closed doors, I will talk to you about my feelings on this post in an email or whatever.

Hillys last blog post..Caption Caption, Who’s Got The Caption?

Hilly wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 9:57 am

 
 

The posts that Lisa make are so needy in a passive aggressive way - it does make you wonder if it is a hoax. On the other hand she did shave her head on video - but who knows. I just cannot imagine having a donation button for myself on my blog - I suppose if people want to arrange something so be it - but when she starts practically begging - it is a bit odd and in todays day - you really have to be careful. She seems to waste so much time on her begging and pleading and sob stories - that it becomes questionable. I have no ill will towards her - and if everything is true then it is true - but there are some warning signs here that if this turns out to be a hoax- everyone would say - I should have known better.

EmAich wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 10:15 am

 
 

EmAich, you’re kidding right?

So help you God you never get cancer.

Krystle wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 10:18 am

 
 

Powerful stuff.

*pixie*s last blog post..drum beat

*pixie* wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 10:20 am

 
 

Oh, for the love of God…Lisa is NOT faking it. I’ve been in desperate financial straits before and if I was again, I’d be asking my friends and family for help. Just because she’s doing it online doesn’t mean anything. It’s the same damn thing. If you don’t like it, then don’t donate anything.

Karls last blog post..As Close As I Am Going to Get to a BlogHer Recap

Karl wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 10:24 am

 
 

<3

Toris last blog post..Opening Night

Tori wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 10:32 am

 
 

You are a sorry excuse of a person. I hope that one day you have to look at Death in his face, and that you get the same treatment that you are giving to Lisa. I couldn’t even finish reading your sickening remarks. Why don’t you go get some, then maybe you can get off your pissy mood.
Why would anyone make up having a serious cancer? I cannot believe that there are such heartless souls out there, and that you are allowed to post such senselessness…

Christine wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 10:35 am

 
 

Congratulations, this post, all by itself, makes you the world’s #1 asshole.

jane wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 10:58 am

 
 

Nat - I totally agree with you. This shit shouldn’t happen in the “most powerful nation on the planet.” This “Christian Nation” (typing that makes me gag) seems to have forgotten “that which you do to the least of these you do to me.”

Avitable - I gave her the opportunity last night to make that point clear when we talked via twitter. She chose instead to attack me further, which leaves me to believe the post was pulled for some other reason… I really didn’t jump to conclusions.

Amanda - The beautiful thing is that there is plenty of room for grey in my world.

Jen - I’m ok with that.

Kyra - Contrary to popular belief, I don’t scour the interwebs looking for targets to shoot down with my wit and zingers. I hadn’t posted anything about Lisa since April. I may have commented on her blog once or twice since then, but never have I said anything anywhere that should have warranted this sort of response from her.

Winter - I didn’t mean to make you cry.

Miss Britt - I guess my “presumption” comes from my experiences watching both sides of the death coin… those that come quick and sudden without warning, and those that announce their arrival. Popular opinion or not, I hold the strong belief that foreknowledge of your own death is a gift and should be treated as such.

Sam - It’s a great sentiment, but the simple fact remains that she threw a steaming pile of dogshit in my direction and called it mine. I’ll claim my own shit. Everything else? Not so much.

Finn - Like I said in the post, there are many people that could pertain to… she is not the only person in my feed reader, by far. If that were the reason she took the post down, she had ample opportunity to make that clear.

jester wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 12:06 pm

 
 

Jester, just so you know, not bad cry. I said it before and I will say it again because I believe it, I know where your heart is. And I agree with Othurme 100%. Where is the fairness in anyone who comes here and spews accusing you of spewing. Hypocrisy is alive and well in the blogging world apparently.

I just came back from a funeral. I stood there with tears in my eyes through Taps and the folding of the flag. I watched my co worker break down and sob while her children were all sobbing… My co workers all had tears in their eyes. I think we all need to shut the fuck up now and deal with our own issues on our own and stop tossing blame around and pointing the finger everywhere, from this moment forward.

From the funeral I was just at: “The moment we draw a breath… we all begin to die.”

Let’s all show some dignity while we are doing so. Stop the comments and the “he hit my friend, so I will hit him” mentality.

Winters last blog post..I’m Full

Winter wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 12:29 pm

 
 

I’ve got to wonder why this woman spends so much time on the computer if she is dying. Why not spend it with her children? This really makes no sense. Where are her priorities? Why is she starting and engaging in blogwars when her health is so fragile and she knows that stress is making it worse? Someone needs to take that computer away from her or turn it off.

I agree with the person up above who stated that Lisa asks for money in a passive aggressive way–except I’d say remove the passive and just say she’s aggressive in her attempt to solicit money. I don’t think she’s faking her cancer, but I think the way she goes about asking for help is off-putting to say the least. She sounds spiteful about that Blogher situation and honestly, that man was simply offering to help and if he decided he didn’t want to help anymore, that’s HIS choice and she just ripped him to shreds on her blog. It’s like she feels entitled to have other people pay her way when most people are struggling to make ends meet themselves. It’s just sort of offensive the way she goes on and on about her bills and whatnot. Join the club. It’s called reality.

I think I would stay away from all this drama if I was dying but that’s just me.

Beth wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 12:37 pm

 
 

Especially Heather - I will say it again and again and whether you like it or not it is true. Talk to people who have had near-death experiences about what changes they have made in their life. Talk to people who have lost loved ones in tragic sudden accidents and see what THEY think. I hate that you and Lisa have had to deal with Cancer. I think it sucks that your lives have been afflicted by such a devastating turn of events, but if you can’t see the silver lining and recognize the preciousness of knowing when your time is up, then I truly feel sorry for you.

Krystle - To be quite honest, I don’t think a diagnosis of terminal cancer automatically puts you on the list of people who can sling mud and insults without repercussion.

heather - Thank you for getting it.

Othurme - 1) You are *absolutely* right. 2) That’s a great example of exactly what I mean. How’d you get to be so smart? 3) It’s the fastest known case of hypocritical amnesia ever recorded. Oh, and fart isn’t that funny. “Squirts” is much funnier.

Chris - Why do I get the feeling my expression would look like that of a blow up doll if you were to mount my head on the wall?

Geeky Tai-Tai - I am sorry that you are disappointed. And I agree, this is tiresome.

Othurme - I’m totally making you open my mail for the next month. I’ll be behind this blast shield.

Karl - It’s pretty clear to me that whether she pulled the post or not she wants to be angry and label me as the unsympathetic asshole that picks on cancer patients. It’s an undeserved label.

Anonymous - Where am I asking for publicity or links? If Lisa didn’t have cancer, would it be ok for her to sling arrows my direction? If I called you out and said you were picking on AIDS patients and orphaned children, would you let me get away with that were it not true?

Hilly - Well anyone that has a problem with your friendship with me can blow it out their fucking asses. In an adult world, we can choose our friends based on their importance to us and not on their stance with other people. In an adult world, friends can agree to disagree with each other and not have to take their balls and go home. In an adult world, we don’t have to answer the question “How can you be friends with him?”

EmAich - I have never said that I don’t believe she has cancer. I assume that she does because I can’t imagine anyone wanting to make that up. I also can’t imagine the karma that would bring to someone who did that.

Pixie - Indeed.

Karl - If I donated to every cause and every person in need I’d have nothing left. I’m not so far from being homeless as it is. I wish I could say that i don’t understand those people who are skeptical about anyone who says they are sick… but unfortunately, I can’t. I do understand it. But I’ll be clear about this again… I’ve never said that I think Lisa is faking cancer. I’ve never said 90% of the stuff I’ve been accused of saying, but that seems to be a moot point.

Tori - Back at you.

Christine - You didn’t even read the post. I didn’t claim Lisa is faking cancer. You don’t get to have an opinion on what I said if you can’t be bothered to fucking read it.

Jane - Really? I wasn’t aware the Academy was ready to vote.

jester wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 12:45 pm

 
 

I’m glad someone finally said it (jester) - I’ve just been struggling with relating to Lisa’s situation..and I feel guilty for it, but I cannot understand the need to focus so much energy in a time like this on money. Money is so far from what truly matters in life, so to be spending days that could be your last obsessing about it? I’m sorry, but I don’t get it. Medical bills be damned, fuck the car, fuck your iphone..fuck your computer..the only thing that truly matters is the connection your making with those that are loved around you. Make those days count. To be spending those days asking and stressing over money? I just feel it’s not where the focus needs to be. That all being said, ask FRIENDS and FAMILY for money, sure..but this situation has grown to asking anybody and everybody for money, she doesn’t even if care if you know her and neither does a lot of her supporters…to them it doesn’t matter. The kindness of strangers is something to appreciate, but when your right out asking for money over and over again I think it’s taking advantage. I contributed quite a bit of money for Lisa’s family to go to Disney World, because that was for a special moment that will go on in the minds and hearts of her girls, but to keep donating to pay medical bills? Maybe I’m evil, or just wrong or whatever people might think, but I can’t do it. I know my opinion here is not popular, but I will just be selfish and be glad I got this of my chest because it’s been bothering me for some time now. Also, please understand I have no will ill towards Lisa, I do think it’s a tragic situation that I can only begin to imagine - I just think her priorities could be rearranged a little.

anon wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 12:51 pm

 
 

Jester,
I don’t mean this to be rude, and it may lose emotion in the transfer (that’s what happens when they cut a huge chunk of your brain out ;)) but please hear me out.

I appreciate your reply, but I will stand by my comment. As a mom with cancer, it took my breath away. I have had death stare me in the face twice. Once with my daughter, and then while I was having my brain cut into, and yes, I have changed my life immensely. Please do not assume otherwise.

Regardless of what or how you feel about Lisa, that was a really harsh thing to put out there, even if you believe it is true. If you know anything about me, you would know that I live every day for the gift that it is. I do not feel entitled to anything other than what I have been blessed with, and I love life immensely in spite of my cancer, so please do not assume that I cannot see the silver lining in my situation because I found your comment offensive. The two have nothing to do with each other. You need not to tell me what a gift each day is. I am fully aware every single breath that I take.

Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended, and really look at it through the eyes of Cancer patients who read this post. I am not emotionally vested in the drama, but that comment, at least to me, cut deep.

Especially Heathers last blog post..Sovereignty..

Especially Heather wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 1:20 pm

 
 

Winter - I’ve said it before: Every breath we take is one closer to our final.

Beth - I think you’ve made some excellent points. I do believe that desperation makes people do things they would never dream of doing otherwise.

anon - Exactly. The LAST thing I would be spending a thought (or a dime) on is the medical bills from last year or this month. I understand the thought behind not leaving your family behind with debt, but the fact of the matter is when you get in these situations, you have two choices: file bankruptcy and deal with the fallout from that for a while, or pay it off a little at a time (probably much longer than dealing with the BR) and slugging it out. Financial woes aren’t worth it.

jester wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 1:40 pm

 
 

I feel like you’re bullying someone who should be supported right now. Please don’t continue. If it takes a post THIS LONG to explain your other post? STOP. You’ve lost our attention and our support.

that girl wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 1:42 pm

 
 

“If it takes a post THIS LONG to explain your other post?”

Dear Jester - Not true. Just another person that wants to comment without reading what’s been said. You still have the support of the literate.

othurmes last blog post..Kick Down Some Buckets

othurme wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 1:45 pm

 
 

Especially Heather - I don’t mean to sound as though I assume I know what you have been through, or what you can or can not understand. I have to say that you are doing a fine job of proving my point. You live every day for the gift that it is. Only someone who knows their timeline can truly do that. I can’t do that, because it is too easy to let petty everyday annoyances get in the way. Reality is often harsh and ugly. I don’t understand why we should shy away from discussing it. I am, however, sorry that you were offended.

jester wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 1:49 pm

 
 

I came here thru Lisa’s blog and all I’ll say is that we all have choices and we should all assumed the consequences of our actions. That being said, I also think we ALL should try to live our days as if we’re about to die, maybe we’d be more open and appreciative of life… but then again, what do I know!

stinkypaw wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 1:51 pm

 
 

that girl - Um, hi? This post doesn’t explain my other post at all. Well, maybe ONE line does. Whatever. Thanks for your insight.

Othurme - Yeah, I think we’ve definitely reached the point in the comments where no one will read from this point forward. We could totally start discussing the merits of ass waxing versus laser treatments and I’d still get hate mail and comments from people thinking I was stating that Lisa doesn’t have cancer and it’s all a hoax.

jester wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 1:54 pm

 
 

I’d like to know exactly what you “do” for your profession that enables you to “help” get people the things they need? Considering your own health situation, why not just concentrate on yourself? Why get someone’s hopes up for help then dump them? I just don’t get it, enlighten us al because I am sure there are others wondering the same thing. Having never read your blog and most likely never will again, as I don’t have the time to read such blatant ass-holier-than thou shit pile of backtracking and excuses. I don’t get you, your blog or your crappy sense of humor(?), diatribe(?), what ever it is.

Kris wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:02 pm

 
 

I am going to keep a list from this point of people that want to call you an asshole but don’t want to read the posts and therefore don’t know why. I will consider them sales leads for the Rotten Tomato Stand down the street from you. Anyone who wants to be grandfathered onto this list dating back to April, let me know. I will gladly add your name. With your membership you get a big jar of “Shut The Fuck Up For Commenting Without Reading” jelly.

1. Kris

othurmes last blog post..Kick Down Some Buckets

othurme wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:10 pm

 
 

I’m getting tired of all the rampant asshole comments too. You don’t know him so please stop. I’m not agreeing with this post at all (sorry Jester) but the rest of him is good stuff…not everything is so fucking black and white.

Hillys last blog post..Caption Caption, Who’s Got The Caption?

Hilly wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:15 pm

 
 

Kris - Wow… now you are confusing me for the PR guy from BlogHer. If you want to think I’m an asshole, that’s fantastic… but do it for the right reason… and make sure you have the right pile of shit.

Othurme - That list is going to get really long very quickly. That jelly sounds mmm mmm tasty.

jester wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:16 pm

 
 

The jelly is in limited supply, so make sure you get on the list early.

othurmes last blog post..Kick Down Some Buckets

othurme wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:17 pm

 
 

Your stat counter (if you use one) will show me sitting here for like an hour LOL I read the post, I read the comments and then walked away and forgot I was still here.

I can’t find the words to express how I’m feeling after reading this.

Lisa pulled her post because she knew she posted it in anger. And then confronted you one on one, rather than leaving a post here for the world to see and opine about. The same respect could have been shown.

As for comparing your health issues with hers? Not comparable. I don’t know what CFS is, but last time I checked, the overweight thing, blood pressure thing and diabetic thing are all treatable and possibly curable. Currently, her illness is not.

Sodapops last blog post..What a crazy day.

Sodapop wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:20 pm

 
 

Hilly - Why be sorry? You are allowed to disagree with me. Grey is one of my favorite colors.

Othurme - Please reserve at least one jar for me. And since this seems to happen every few months, you should probably go ahead and stock up for next time. I’m just sayin’.

jester wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:21 pm

 
 

I’m confused…if Lisa confronted Jester privately, why to I have a Twitter log that shows otherwise? Mysteries of the universe….REVEAL YOURSELF!

othurmes last blog post..Kick Down Some Buckets

othurme wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:22 pm

 
 

Can I get some of the jelly as well - oh and I’m thinking of sinking my 401k into stock in the company that makes it. Even my jabs at jeebus don’t get this many comments and hits, I’m almost jealous.

Chriss last blog post..Step away from the cupcakes and no one gets hurt!

Chris wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:27 pm

 
 

I said one on one - not privately. Whether it was on Twitter or not, it was one on one. I saw the Twitter conversation.

Sodapops last blog post..What a crazy day.

Sodapop wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:32 pm

 
 

Sodapop - Where is the explanation from Lisa that says she pulled the post because she knew it was posted in anger? I certainly didn’t get that. What I got was a public dressing down on Twitter last night, hardly a “one on one” confrontation. And I didn’t really compare my health issues with her terminal cancer, she said that I’m healthy and I simply refuted that. CFS is not curable. Luckily, it’s not terminal. But again, having a terminal illness does not absolve you of responsibility for waging an unprovoked or misguided attack on someone else.

Othurme - The devil must have planted that twitter log. That’s the only rational explanation.

jester wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:32 pm

 
 

Anyone who would like to take this conversation privately to one on one twitter, let me know….I only have 3500 people following me. If that’s not private, I don’t know what is.

othurmes last blog post..Kick Down Some Buckets

othurme wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:37 pm

 
 

Jester,

clusterfook @karlerikson because I posted it out of anger and realized I shouldn’t have done it, now I can’t sleep (posted 14 hours ago)

I can do a screen shot and email you the thing if you’d like. Or you can just click on Lisa’s icon on Twitter and read back to see it yourself. :)

And like I said, I DID see the Twitter conversation. I was awake at 3:30 in the morning during it.

Sodapops last blog post..What a crazy day.

Sodapop wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:38 pm

 
 

Jester, You’re not even worth it to get pissed about. You’re pathetic. I already know what an asshole you are from Lisa’s Raffle debacle and having to turn the attention all to yourself. So, no surprise here. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if you were “anon”, but anyway, you agree so strongly with him!
I’m just glad to see you showing your ass to a few more people!

Why don’t you go out and kick children and shove down the people using the handicapped parking spaces, because OMG! They aren’t in a wheelchair! What are they whining about?

Oh, and I’m happy to give you “bus” fare.

annies last blog post..Calling All Bloggers

annie wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:39 pm

 
 

Ok, for those of you that are new to this blog, welcome to the circus. This blog is not for the shy, the easily offended, or the serious. I have known Jester for a very long time. Other than his relatives, I’ve probably known him longer than anyone else (not to say that I know him any better than you). I’m going to get straight to the point. No one can say how they would react to a diagnosis of a terminal illness. I have been in the medical field for 10+ years and have seen every reaction imaginable other than immediate suicide. However, I have a personal story that I have shared on this blog about my own diagnosis. If you go back far enough, you’ll find it. In this guest post, you’ll find many things out about me that didn’t “have to be” shared. Jester even questioned rather he should actually post the story. I told him that I wanted to share my story with others. He, against his own judgement, granted my wish. As someone with an illness myself, I routinely say…”We are all terminal, just some know it and some don’t.” Personally, I find myself pretty blessed to know that my body is not going to survive it’s intended length. Within that same breath, I know that not everyone can feel this way. I think Jester was trying to offer support in the best way he knew how…giving alternative options.

Jester would never intend to kick someone while they are down. If Lisa is truly ill (and we all hope she’s well), then she is going through a time in her life right now that she WILL need all the help and support she can beg for. I did it. There’s actually a complete website I found that allows those that claim to be ill to tell their story and ask for money. There’s no other reason to be on the site other than to ask for money or to give money. It was never fruitfull, but definately worth the shot for someone who truly needs it. Although filling bankruptcy sounds like the answer Jester, it’s not that easy. The best way to do that would be to have the bankruptcy finalized the day you die (signing the papers with the judge present at the foot of your deathbed) and have a specific clause to include the medical/doctor/hospital bills you may accumulate for that day. Nearly impossible if not so.

If you’ve never been to this blog, than please read some of the other posts before commenting solely on this one. You will find that most (although not all) people have taken this situation out of its intentions and turned it into a place to leave hate mail. This is a great blog and I will always feel free to speak my mind here. That’s what Jester intended it for and asks for. He may not agree with your comments or you with his, but he will respect your opinions and thoughts, so long as they are not a direct insult to his being.

Lisa, I’m sorry you’re going through this. I feel your pain and wish you only the best (rather you’re sick or not). Jester, I appologize for taking up so much space and hope you don’t find this to be too annoying.

toby wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:41 pm

 
 

1. Kris
2. Annie

Sorry Chris the jelly is only for illiterate name callers.

othurmes last blog post..Kick Down Some Buckets

othurme wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:41 pm

 
 

I hope that there’s still time to invest b/c it looks like the line to get the jelly just got longer. I’m coming running cash in hand…

Chriss last blog post..Step away from the cupcakes and no one gets hurt!

Chris wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:47 pm

 
 

Othurme, I never said she took it private. I’d like to see where I said that. Other than that, I’m done with this conversation.

I am not calling Jester names. I am not picking sides. I was pointing out some discrepancies that I saw, that is all.

I’m allowed to do that here, aren’t? I would expect nothing less from Jester or the readers of this blog to let me have my opinions even if they disagree.

Sodapops last blog post..What a crazy day.

Sodapop wrote on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:48 pm

 
 

“Lisa pulled her post because she knew she posted it in anger. And then confronted you one on one, rather than leaving a post here for the world to see and opine about. The same respect could have been shown.”

Sodapop makes a couple points I’m now left to ponder…which are…how one-on-one in front of 10,000 followers is somehow better than a blog post?

And how the term one-on-one can somehow involve a third party tweeter.

othurmes last blog post..Kick Down Some Buckets