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Hi. Welcome back. I’m glad to see that you feel we can hold an at least somewhat intelligent conversation on this very touchy subject.
I’d like to address the issues and “facts” that you presented regarding homosexuality.
From your original reply on Scott-O-Rama:
I read your post Blog about how Christianity has condemned your lifestyle of homosexuality and simply wanted to say that, that isn’t true at all!
Which part isn’t true? That you read the post, or that Christianity has condemned the “lifestyle” of homosexuality? I’m going to assume that you read the post that you were commenting on, so then you must be saying that Christianity doesn’t condemn homosexuality, and you know better than that. Read any of the other comments on this article and you will see example after example of Christians (i.e. people following the Christian faith) doing just that.
Some quotes, “There is a judgement [sic] coming for all who refuse to hear his voice saying “repent” and be “converted”. ” “This is a SIN periond. [sic] and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.” “I’m sorry. God clearly condemns homosexuality.” “Should we also be “tolerant” of theives [sic] who do not repent and turn from their sins? Or rapists?” “Homosexuality is wrong !!” **
Many of the Gay community assume that since we believe that God and the Bible has clearly spoken on the issue, that we must hate them; nothing can be further from the truth!
I can’t speak for the whole gay community, and I don’t pretend to, however, I can say that I’m pretty sure that no one assumes that you hate us because you believe in God and the Bible. We assume you hate us because members of your community protest at our funerals, and vote against our rights as taxpayers to enter into contracts with loved ones.
You kick us out of your homes and your lives and your churches. You turn a blind eye to our getting beaten and left to die on a fencepost in Laramie Wyoming. You ignore an epidemic that is killing millions and millions of people every year, because you refuse to acknowledge that AIDS is not a gay disease. You compare us to murderers, thieves, and pedophiles.
If those aren’t acts of hatred but of love, I wish never to be your enemy.
I love all people…including members of the Gay community. What I do not and cannot condone is sexual perversion. See, I’m clear that God “intentionally” made Male & Female. I’m clear as to what God’s purpose was and is as it relates to human sexuality.
Ok, let me for the moment set aside my own belief that God didn’t “make” anything and view this from another vantage point. (Something your community seems to be completely unable or unwilling to do, by the way.) Let’s say God created Adam and Eve. How can you profess to know God’s purpose? God created a mechanism by which humans can procreate and propagate, but did he not also make the act enjoyable? Seems that if God can magically “make” people, he could also “make” it so that sex with another man felt like being sliced up by razors. He could make us have a biological “instant eye bleed” response when subjected to homo-erotic imagery. However, he did not do those things. I can just as easily observe that human sexuality is not so clearly laid out based solely on the creation of two sexes.
I’m clear that God did not make persons of the same sex compatible sexually speaking. Everyone knows that persons of the same sex CANNOT reproduce and bring new life into the world.
I certainly have to argue with you here. I have never been, nor do I believe I ever will be sexually compatible with any woman. I have dated men that I eventually found to be sexually incompatible, but I have definitely found a few with which I was quite compatible, thank you very much.
Are you honestly making the argument that the sole purpose of sex is for reproduction? Does this mean that YOU only have sex with the intent of creating a child? You have never had sex that did not result in a conception? How’s that twelfth child working out for you? Do you believe that a man or a woman who is unable to conceive a child for whatever reason, be it injury, biology, disease or other cause should not have sex? Isn’t it remotely possible that God created sex as a celebration of life, to be embraced, enjoyed, and shared often, with an occasional byproduct being the conception of a child?
I’m also clear that as a Man, God did not intend that a Penis should penetrate another man’s Anus and vice-versa. And He did not intend that women would use “Gagets” to “try” to bring pleasure to each other. God, in His infinite wisdom already has provided the answers: A man’s Penis is designed to penetrate a woman’s vagina, and a woman’s vagina is designed to recieve a man’s penis. And a Anus, male or female is not designed to recieve a penis, in that, it is solely for the purpose of eliminating human toxic waste!
Allow me for a moment to wipe the image of the “vice-versa” arrangement of an anus penetrating a penis from my mind… ok… that was weird. Anyway, let me reiterate that God did not make the penetration of the anus (male or female) impossible or unpleasant. No razors. No brick walls. No horrible biological response. In fact, it’s quite easy to do and generally pleasurable for both parties. How can you say that the anus is solely for the purpose of eliminating waste, since you KNOW that it is physically possible for a penis to penetrate an anus, that is proof positive that it does not have a singular purpose. Just as the vagina is also the birth canal, designed to stretch to an unbelievable size to accommodate a child.
I’ll go so far to say that the anus can adapt to accommodate large objects as well, as evidence by the placement of your head.
I’m trying to think of a part of the anatomy with only one purpose… the ear canal, perhaps? It’s purpose is to allow sound waves to compress and pass to the eardrum. If it were somehow able to accommodate the insertion of a penis, you could then say that it no longer had a sole purpose.
Perhaps you have a hard time with this concept, but it’s a little something I like to call “Logical Thinking.” You should give it a try sometime.
Now, my question is, what is so hateful about these facts?? Why is my thinking wrong?? It appears to me, that the Gay community is over-whelmed with guilt, and their issue over this matter is with God and not His people!
Mr. Cooper, you have failed to provide me with any “facts” whatsoever. You have offered your interpretations of the Bible. You have presented your opinions. Facts? No.
You have also failed my challenge to offer me a valid argument against homosexuality that does not use a faith-based doctrine as its basis. Surely you must see how narrow minded and illogical that is.
There’s nothing inherently hateful about your opinions. It’s the actions that you carry out based on those opinions that become hateful. Treating homosexuals as second class citizens is hateful. Imposing your religious beliefs upon us by repeatedly trying to legislate those beliefs against us is hateful. Designing video games glorifying the death of non-believers, Catholics, Muslims, Jews, and homosexuals is hateful.
The fact that in a time of an unjust holy war (and if you think for a moment that what’s happening in Iraq isn’t Islam versus Christianity you’re in deep denial) that your community thinks the biggest threat to our nation is gay marriage is hateful, misguided and WRONG.
I don’t think the gay community is overwhelmed with guilt. I think the gay community is overwhelmed by a great sadness, perpetuated by the daily harassment, mistreatment, and rejection on the behalf of our families, churches and communities who claim to love us but not our “sins.” I think the gay community is tired of the Christian community that claims to be compassionate and loving showing the true faces of their hypocrisy.
I point a finger at the Christian community and say that you are responsible for the high suicide rate among gay teens. I point a finger at the Christian community for the rise in violence against homosexuals in our cities. I point a finger at the Christian community for deepening the divide in this country between what is RIGHT and what is MORAL.
The animosity and anger between our communities is only going to get worse unless changes happen from within. When intelligent, educated, God-Fearing men like Oliver “Buzz” Thomas become more of the rule rather than the exception, we will begin to see the changes.
And then my dear Mr. Cooper, you and Mrs. Cooper can finally enjoy sex in a position other than missionary. You might even get to try your hand at some oral copulation. And the world will truly be a much more beautiful place. I know you don’t agree with me now, but trust me, you will.
Sincerely yours,
Paul
aka Jester
** I didn’t intentionally try to pick out quotes with exceedingly bad grammar or spelling, it just happened. I’ll leave the inferring to you.
