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		<title>By: jester</title>
		<link>http://www.jestertunes.com/2008/02/19/on-a-serious-note/comment-page-1/#comment-27021</link>
		<dc:creator>jester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - That doesn&#039;t make it a hate crime, that just makes it good fashion sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; That doesn&#8217;t make it a hate crime, that just makes it good fashion sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jester and Lee

Just going back to the burka. What if, the only reason Lee is killing black women this week is for color matching purposes and Lee already has 3 complete white skin burka&#039;s in the closet?

Is Lee a hater for his keen fashion sense? Must he be branded a hater for wanting variety in his wardrobe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jester and Lee</p>
<p>Just going back to the burka. What if, the only reason Lee is killing black women this week is for color matching purposes and Lee already has 3 complete white skin burka&#8217;s in the closet?</p>
<p>Is Lee a hater for his keen fashion sense? Must he be branded a hater for wanting variety in his wardrobe?</p>
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		<title>By: Jestertunes &#187; Exclamation Point</title>
		<link>http://www.jestertunes.com/2008/02/19/on-a-serious-note/comment-page-1/#comment-27010</link>
		<dc:creator>Jestertunes &#187; Exclamation Point</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] jester: laughingattheslut - The laws have not changed everywhere. I think it&#039;s safe to say most rapists have a type. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] jester: laughingattheslut &#8211; The laws have not changed everywhere. I think it&#8217;s safe to say most rapists have a type. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jester</title>
		<link>http://www.jestertunes.com/2008/02/19/on-a-serious-note/comment-page-1/#comment-27008</link>
		<dc:creator>jester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>laughingattheslut - The laws have not changed everywhere. I think it&#039;s safe to say most rapists have a type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>laughingattheslut &#8211; The laws have not changed everywhere. I think it&#8217;s safe to say most rapists have a type.</p>
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		<title>By: laughingattheslut</title>
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		<dc:creator>laughingattheslut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Thankfully the statutes on rape have begun to change to protect wives and men from the humiliation and pain of rape.&quot;

I thought that the laws were already changed, just that it&#039;s hard to get wives and men to testify against their attackers, so they aren&#039;t using the new laws that much.

Or am I just watching too much of Law and Order and imagining it?


Anyway, it would certainly be nice if rapists got an extra five years (for any reason really) if he had a type that he went after.

&lt;em&gt;laughingattheslut&#039;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&#039;http://insidioustruth.blogspot.com/2008/02/nobody-cares-what-you-had-for-lunch-and.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nobody cares what you had for lunch, and nobody cares about art class either&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thankfully the statutes on rape have begun to change to protect wives and men from the humiliation and pain of rape.&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought that the laws were already changed, just that it&#8217;s hard to get wives and men to testify against their attackers, so they aren&#8217;t using the new laws that much.</p>
<p>Or am I just watching too much of Law and Order and imagining it?</p>
<p>Anyway, it would certainly be nice if rapists got an extra five years (for any reason really) if he had a type that he went after.</p>
<p><em>laughingattheslut&#8217;s last blog post&#8230;<a href='http://insidioustruth.blogspot.com/2008/02/nobody-cares-what-you-had-for-lunch-and.html'>Nobody cares what you had for lunch, and nobody cares about art class either</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: jester</title>
		<link>http://www.jestertunes.com/2008/02/19/on-a-serious-note/comment-page-1/#comment-27006</link>
		<dc:creator>jester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Watcher - I think the fact that in Lee&#039;s scenario, since he knows the gay guy it&#039;s not necessarily a hate motivated crime. 

Lee - I know eventually you&#039;ll come around to my way of thinking.:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Watcher &#8211; I think the fact that in Lee&#8217;s scenario, since he knows the gay guy it&#8217;s not necessarily a hate motivated crime. </p>
<p>Lee &#8211; I know eventually you&#8217;ll come around to my way of thinking.:)</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now THAT&#039;S mildly convincing! Thank you Watcher!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now THAT&#8217;S mildly convincing! Thank you Watcher!</p>
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		<title>By: The Watcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Watcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lee said</p>
<p>So let’s say I’m a real asshole (I know, real stretch right) and I decided I’m going to get really drunk one night (again, way off base I know) and go down to the local bar and beat to death the man that’s been banging my girlfriend while I’m at work with a pool stick cause I hate him soooo much.</p>
<p>OR</p>
<p>I’m a real asshole that hates fags and I get drunk and go down to the bar and beat to death the gay guy that I know.</p>
<p>Same injuries, same cause of death…both cases I left the house intending to kill someone because I hate them</p>
<p>Which of these is a hate crime? Why not both?&#8221;</p>
<p>Because in the first scenario, you have only demonstrated yourself to be a danger to guys who bang your girlfriend. In the second, you&#8217;ve demonstrated that you&#8217;re a danger to any guy who is gay. I.e. he doesn&#8217;t have to do anything to you to incur your wrath.</p>
<p><em>The Watcher&#8217;s last blog post&#8230;<a href='http://fundiewatch.blogspot.com/2008/02/activist-judges.html' rel="nofollow">Activist Judges</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: jester</title>
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		<dc:creator>jester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robguy - You make an excellent point about the terrorism of a group of people. When a gay bashing or a racially motivated crime happens in a community it makes all members of that community worry about their own safety. 

Thankfully the statutes on rape have begun to change to protect wives and men from the humiliation and pain of rape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robguy &#8211; You make an excellent point about the terrorism of a group of people. When a gay bashing or a racially motivated crime happens in a community it makes all members of that community worry about their own safety. </p>
<p>Thankfully the statutes on rape have begun to change to protect wives and men from the humiliation and pain of rape.</p>
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		<title>By: Robguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really disappointed with the amount of ignorance in the US about hate crimes - which should probably be more aptly called bias crimes.

First off, only in certain areas will a bias crime get you any additional time or severity in sentencing.  Most places still only use it for statistical purposes.  Some people just don&#039;t want there to be concrete evidence of the issue.

What makes a bias crime more serious (and in my mind worthy of harsher sentencing) is that it is an attack on more than just the primary victim.  It is an act of terror aimed at a segment of society.  Burning a cross on a black persons lawn will make people mumble and wonder about white supremacy, who is next, where it this coming from.  Generally speaking black people may feel more insecure, feel the need be more vigilant for their safety.  Burning a cross on a white person&#039;s lawn will just make people go huh?

Contrary to popular meme, hate crimes don&#039;t give special protection to any group.  Everyone has a race, religion (or lack of), sexual orientation. There have been plenty of prosecutions and convictions for hate crimes against white people. 

As for rape being a hate crime - that&#039;s kind of already built into the statute.  Historically a wife could not be raped by her husband, and a man could not be raped.

&lt;em&gt;Robguy&#039;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&#039;http://notrobsstuff.blogspot.com/2008/02/more-webs.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;More Webs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really disappointed with the amount of ignorance in the US about hate crimes &#8211; which should probably be more aptly called bias crimes.</p>
<p>First off, only in certain areas will a bias crime get you any additional time or severity in sentencing.  Most places still only use it for statistical purposes.  Some people just don&#8217;t want there to be concrete evidence of the issue.</p>
<p>What makes a bias crime more serious (and in my mind worthy of harsher sentencing) is that it is an attack on more than just the primary victim.  It is an act of terror aimed at a segment of society.  Burning a cross on a black persons lawn will make people mumble and wonder about white supremacy, who is next, where it this coming from.  Generally speaking black people may feel more insecure, feel the need be more vigilant for their safety.  Burning a cross on a white person&#8217;s lawn will just make people go huh?</p>
<p>Contrary to popular meme, hate crimes don&#8217;t give special protection to any group.  Everyone has a race, religion (or lack of), sexual orientation. There have been plenty of prosecutions and convictions for hate crimes against white people. </p>
<p>As for rape being a hate crime &#8211; that&#8217;s kind of already built into the statute.  Historically a wife could not be raped by her husband, and a man could not be raped.</p>
<p><em>Robguy&#8217;s last blog post&#8230;<a href='http://notrobsstuff.blogspot.com/2008/02/more-webs.html'>More Webs</a></em></p>
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