Apoplectic
 

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[UPDATE: Seems Eliot didn't like my comments on his site. They have been removed. I guess it's a good thing I saved them here.]

Here’s something I haven’t really approached before… the intense disdain I have for gay people who hate gay people.

I was casually browsing through my Google Feed Reader when I ran across a link on Gawker to Fasthugs. The link text said, “another gay finds gay shame.”

I of course had to click on that.

Among other incredible insensitive and ignorant remarks was THIS little gem that almost made me scream out loud.

Gay Shame

You can see the full infuriating post at “Pride and Prejudice.”

Here are my comments:

Gee, how shocking and surprising that once again the fringe element of the homosexual community is held up as the example of a gay pride parade. Where are the pictures of the thousands of normally-dressed gay rights activists? Where are the pictures of the Lesbians for Adoption Rights? Where are the pictures of the crowds of homosexuals who are sick and tired of homophobic assholes making ignorant stereotypical AIDS comments?

Oh that’s right… it’s not nearly as interesting as the guy in ass-less chaps.

You are an asshat.

Shortly after I left that comment, while I was writing this post, I received the following email:

From: Eliot Glazer
Subject: Re: [Fast Hugs] Jester submitted a comment to ”Pride’ & Prejudice [NSFW-ish!]‘
Date: June 13, 2007 3:44:35 PM PDT
To: jester

Besides being an asshat, I’m also gay.

Oh. My. Gay. God.

Here’s my response:

From: jester
Subject: Re: [Fast Hugs] Jester submitted a comment to ”Pride’ & Prejudice [NSFW-ish!]‘
Date: June 13, 2007 3:59:57 PM PDT
To: Eliot Glazer

Do you think being gay makes that kind of homophobic and vile diatribe ok?

It makes you a hypocrite.

You are shitting all over the memory of thousands and thousands of gay and gay-friendly folks who have forged ahead of you to make your life as a gay man even somewhat tolerable.

It is one thing to say that drag queens and leather daddies don’t represent YOU. It is quite another to further perpetuate the hate and bigotry that so many people before you have fought so hard against.

His response:

From: Eliot Glazer
Subject: Re: [Fast Hugs] Jester submitted a comment to ”Pride’ & Prejudice [NSFW-ish!]‘
Date: June 13, 2007 4:08:38 PM PDT
To: jester

I agree with your argument wholeheartedly, but I, too, wish that attention was paid more to the work of activists rather than such a polarizing spectacle. To me, it’s retrogressive and won’t make it any easier for a stodgy conservative to shuck his original beliefs and decide that gays (at least those who he sees on the local news the night after the parade) deserve the right to marry and adopt. Sadly, I think the well-intended desires for such rights by the rest of us get overshadowed by the carnival of discomforting, abrasive behavior.

Then mine again:

From: jester
Subject: Re: [Fast Hugs] Jester submitted a comment to ”Pride’ & Prejudice [NSFW-ish!]‘
Date: June 13, 2007 4:28:28 PM PDT
To: Eliot Glazer

Let me get this straight…

You are protesting the depiction of gays as AIDS-ridden hedonists by depicting them as AIDS-ridden hedonists?

It’s the drag queens that scare the conservatives into paying attention to us. It’s the leather daddies who want to adopt that push the right wing nut jobs to open their mouths and prove themselves to be raving idiots.

People like you just give them more ammunition. They are happy to let homophobic gays do their work for them.

Flaming Fuck YouI feel a full-fledged rant coming on. In the meantime, Eliot has the distinction of being the first gay person I’ve ever given the “Flaming Fuck You” award.

18 Responses to “Apoplectic”
 

Holy shit….you go girl!

Branden Just wrote on June 13th, 2007 at 7:50 pm

 
 

This kind of stuff is how I decided that I really, really like this blog. I always anticipate your jellyfish comments and rebuttals…you know, the one’s where they hardly know you’re there and then you start stinging all over the place.

I want you on my debate team.

But first, I have to get tested. I stared at that picture for too long. I wish you had posted a warning. Something like: Caution, AIDS risk. Do not stare directly into the photo below.

I know better than to stare into the sun, but no one ever warned me of the risk of contracting AIDS from looking at short shorts and cowboy hats. I stared at a man in chaps for too long several years ago. There’s no telling how long I’ve been afflicted.

Mist 1 wrote on June 13th, 2007 at 8:59 pm

 
 

Branden - Don’t encourage me.

Mist 1 - [channeling Sally Field] You like me! You really like me! I got kicked off the debate team in high school… some nonsense about assault and restraining orders… who remembers?

I should work on a visual vaccination. I could be rich!

jester wrote on June 14th, 2007 at 1:47 am

 
 

I’m sorry…did you write a post? All I see are half naked men……………………

Da Duck wrote on June 14th, 2007 at 2:15 am

 
 

thanks for giving eliot the ffu award. damn, did that boy deserve it.

although i will admit that i had a difficult time getting through this post. those guys were smoking hot and provided an incredible distraction.

please post more photos of half naked men. especially if they will wear cowboy hats for me. i don’t mind if they simply hold the cowboy hat either.

hellohahanarf wrote on June 14th, 2007 at 5:53 am

 
 

Da Duck - I’m sorry… did you write a comment? I got lost at the mention of half naked men…

hello - I will find you some more pictures. Also… San Francisco Pride is next weekend. I’ll take lots of photos.

jester wrote on June 14th, 2007 at 6:03 am

 
 

If you (and maybe you are) Jewish, would you think that Sarah Silverman was a hypocrite? Or is it her status as a comedienne that allows her to make jokes at the expense of Jews while she’s Jewish?

Avitable wrote on June 14th, 2007 at 6:27 am

 
 

Good Lord Man, it is hard to go back and catch up on the reading I have slacked on, and comment in order to catch up with hellohahanarf. I need a office job to have more time to read.

As for this post:
Your site is totally gay.

Killer wrote on June 14th, 2007 at 9:20 am

 
 

I meant that comment in a good way.

Killer wrote on June 14th, 2007 at 9:21 am

 
 

Avitable - I think Sarah’s routine is different because she makes it quite clear that she’s making fun of herself. She isn’t holding up a fringe section of the Jewish community and saying they should be gassed or anything. At least not that I’ve seen.

jester wrote on June 14th, 2007 at 1:40 pm

 
 

That’s a good point. She makes fun of the stereotypes surrounding Jews. The picture and caption you didn’t like seems to be furthering the stereotype, not making light of it.

Avitable wrote on June 14th, 2007 at 1:43 pm

 
 

Killer - You should get a blackberry so you can read and comment on the go… or on the toilet. I don’t mind being totally gay. I prefer it, in fact… doing things half-assed is a pet peeve.

jester wrote on June 14th, 2007 at 2:06 pm

 
 

Avitable - I didn’t care for most of his pictures and captions, but I found that one particularly offensive.

jester wrote on June 14th, 2007 at 2:23 pm

 
 

er. um. I can’t think of anything to say that might not be construed as offensive. Those men? Hot. Gay, strait, whatever, they are fine specimins of male anatomy.

I am thankful that I can’t get any sort of disease by looking. Not saying any of them have one, just saying, whew!

Ginamonster wrote on June 15th, 2007 at 2:16 pm

 
 

Gina - Hell yes they are hot! I can’t think of anything that you could say that would be offensive, since I know you wouldn’t ever dare to suggest that these particular boys are infected with AIDS simply because they are gay!

jester wrote on June 15th, 2007 at 4:08 pm

 
 

Ok, Ok, Ok, it’s been a while, but I’m catching up! It’s just a little hard to keep scrolling down when you pic’s like this up…I don’t think I need to tell you how I feel about this situation…you said it for me, and I thank you for that, and being who you are.

Toby wrote on June 21st, 2007 at 7:36 pm

 
 

Toby - Yeah, you need to catch up… you got knocked off the top commenters list! That will never do! And you’re welcome…:)

jester wrote on June 21st, 2007 at 7:49 pm

 
 

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